New way to achieve the Hyperspace sound?

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Ash517
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New way to achieve the Hyperspace sound?

Postby Ash517 » Fri Nov 03, 2017 2:27 pm

TC Electronic’s Flashback 2 delay has a pressure sensitive footswitch which (on the tape setting) cranks the feedback and changes delay time based on the pressure you put on the footswitch. The sounds it can make are extremely close to that of the Hyperspace pedal.
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Re: New way to achieve the Hyperspace sound?

Postby RockmanCentralBob » Sat Nov 04, 2017 12:02 am

Hyperspace pedal?
I don't think so.

Sounds like a one trick poney in that mode...

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Re: New way to achieve the Hyperspace sound?

Postby Fireful0 » Sat Nov 04, 2017 2:39 am

I have actually thought about this too.
The limitation is that with the pressure sensitive button, you will only be able to control one effect.
The hyperspace requires 2: One for feedback, and one for delay time.

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Re: New way to achieve the Hyperspace sound?

Postby RockmanCentralBob » Tue Nov 07, 2017 12:28 am

Fireful0 wrote:I have actually thought about this too.
The limitation is that with the pressure sensitive button, you will only be able to control one effect.
The hyperspace requires 2: One for feedback, and one for delay time.


Actually, a lot more than that...

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Re: New way to achieve the Hyperspace sound?

Postby Fireful0 » Tue Nov 07, 2017 12:48 am

RockmanCentralBob wrote:
Fireful0 wrote:I have actually thought about this too.
The limitation is that with the pressure sensitive button, you will only be able to control one effect.
The hyperspace requires 2: One for feedback, and one for delay time.


Actually, a lot more than that...

Well, it is a good start, though.
Closer than nothing. :D

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Re: New way to achieve the Hyperspace sound?

Postby GuitarBuilder » Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:59 pm

RockmanCentralBob wrote:
Fireful0 wrote:I have actually thought about this too.
The limitation is that with the pressure sensitive button, you will only be able to control one effect.
The hyperspace requires 2: One for feedback, and one for delay time.


Actually, a lot more than that...


If I recall correctly, HSP controls head position, repeats, and echo/playback on/off. Did I miss something?

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Re: New way to achieve the Hyperspace sound?

Postby RockmanCentralBob » Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:31 pm

Yes.... quite a bit, actually.

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Re: New way to achieve the Hyperspace sound?

Postby Fireful0 » Wed Nov 22, 2017 5:27 am

Well, I am gonna be honest.
No one is going to be able to replicate the exact hyperspace pedal, and the people who know aren't ever gonna tell how it's done.

So, for me, I am gonna get as close as I can and be happy with that.
I don't need the exact way to do it.
It's all about having fun. ;)

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Re: New way to achieve the Hyperspace sound?

Postby RockmanCentralBob » Wed Nov 22, 2017 8:39 pm

Exactly!! For your average listener, anything you guys do that is in the ballpark of a HSP effect is going to impress.

Again, if I wasn't explicitly asked NOT to reveal my understanding of how the HSP works, I'd be happy to share. But I try to help where I can, and if I make a comment like the one above, I'm doing what I can to get you to think deeper. Guitarbuilder's comments weren't wrong... just incomplete. There IS quite a bit going on inside to get all the nuances of Tom's unit. I'm a perfectionist so I really try to nail things as closely as possible, and that's taken a ton of trial and error. But for the most part, you wouldn't notice unless I hadn't done the addition mods. It's more about refining it to make it smoother, quieter, more responsive.

I've got mine dialed in pretty damn close to Tom's, but there are still some things that he does that I haven't gotten around to implementing yet. Well, I've tried several things (building my own circuits) but they didn't work out as I'd hoped. I have a pretty good idea how to do it other ways, but it involves more equipment and I haven't gone down that road yet.